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 Post subject: Hulk General Discussion
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:14 pm 
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I always thought the Grey Hulk or is it Gray Hulk well either way I always thought he was interesting other then the original green hulk now what issues would you recommend of Gray Hulk for someone to read?


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 Post subject: Re: Grey Hulk: Recommended reads
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:54 am 
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Actually, the Hulk was originally grey in Incredible Hulk #1 by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, but he was green from #2 onwards because there were problems printing a consistent tone of grey, and Stan Lee decided he would look better green. Whenever they reprinted the first issue, they coloured him green. According to Wikipedia, the next time he was shown as grey was in a flashback in Incredible Hulk #302, but I've not read that issue. He reverted to grey in Incredible Hulk #324, written and drawn by Al Milgrom, who for my money should stick to inking. Peter David soon took over as writer and his run (#328 and #331 onwards) is well worth reading, especially the issues with the grey Hulk in Las Vegas as Joe Fixit( starting from #347). There's a particularly good Hulk v Thing crossover featuring Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four #320 by Steve Englehart, Keith Pollard and Joe Sinnott and Incredible Hulk #350 by David, Jeff Purves and Terry Austin. Iron Man #247 and Amazing Spider-Man #328, both written by David Michelinie, also had good grey Hulk appearances. Dale Keown, arguably the best of Peter David's grey Hulk artists started his run with #367, the last part of a four parter called Countdown. #378 was the last grey Hulk appearance of the run, but David continued as writer until #467. John Byrne and Lee Weeks retold and attempted to retcon Incredible Hulk #1 in Hulk Annual '99, now no longer set in 1962 but again coloured grey. I don't think this story is currently considered to be canon - Peter David mocked it in an issue of Captain Marvel, leading to a feud with Byrne. I think Paul Jenkins later reintroduced many of David's concepts, including the grey persona, but I've not read those issues yet, or Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's Hulk:Grey limited series.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:40 am 
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Yep, just stick to Peter David's Mr Fixit stories. Consistently good stuff for the full run, and it gets even better when the green Hulk comes back :)

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I see and do we gots any download links of that?


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 Post subject: Re: Grey Hulk: Recommended reads
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:29 pm 
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I can't find any Incredible Hulks in the archive, which is quite surprising. The Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale miniseries might be worth a try in the meantime.
https://comickingdom.co.uk/hulk-gray-t24.html


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 Post subject: Re: Grey Hulk: Recommended reads
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:38 pm 
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Lee Kirby Oswald wrote:
I can't find any Incredible Hulks in the archive, which is quite surprising.

It is surprising! I've added Volumes 1-3 here --> the-incredible-hulk-volumes-1-3-t2827.html
The Giant-Size issues here --> giant-size-incredible-hulk-t2829.html
And the Tales to Astonish issues here --> tales-to-astonish-hulk-issues-t2828.html

:hulk:

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 Post subject: Hulk General Discussion
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:07 am 
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For me, the Incredible Hulk has never been that high on my list of favorite characters. I have only read a few of his stories, Planet Hulk and some issues of the latest run. I have liked what I saw, but I read reviews where people hate it and that it sucks, and upon second thought I only liked the new stuff because of Ed McGuiness. Does anybody think that the latest run has been good? Any thoughts on anything :hulk: ?

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on the Hulk
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:11 am 
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Why does the world has to hate me every month with a new issue of Hulk by Jeph Loeb?

Why does Marvel doesn't send Hulk to kick Loeb's ass?

Why does Incredible Hulk milestone marker issue had to be written by the deadly duo???

These are questions that i can't find answers... Buuuuuuuuut... there is still Savage She-Hulk to save some few pages of average quality. Thanks Fred... we owe you the 5 bucks...

And next month there is more Loeb... oh my god... how many more???

Guys... is it my impression or Loeb's Hulk is like Dragon Ball Z??? With like 5 issues to a single fight.. there is so many SOC, POW, SPLASH...


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on the Hulk
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:42 am 
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My biggest problem with Loebs run is the way he`s dragged it out - we had Planet Hulk in 12 solid issues... nuff said!


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Loeb's been proper brainwashed at Marvel it seems. Earlier in his career at DC he told decent stories now it's all decompression & shock value.

Even She-Hulk isn't safe from his madness:

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god... don't tell me Red She Hulk.


was following this latest run, but it's dragged on far too much. Was hoping to see something resolved in #600, but it didn't happen.

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Oh yes, it's Red She-Hulk. And here's a quote straight from Loeb's mouth at the SDCC panel:

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"We kind of figured that since we won't tell you who the Red Hulk is, we won't tell you who the Red She-Hulk is."

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pretty lame. No creativity.

I can see it now:

(at Marvel offices)

"Red Hulk's the best idea we've had for Hulk for a while. Now She-Hulk's getting stale, any ideas?"

Loeb: "How about we introduce a new character.... Red She-Hulk"

"Sounds good. Can you stretch it out for a year?"

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impulse wrote:
pretty lame. No creativity.

I can see it now:

(at Marvel offices)

"Red Hulk's the best idea we've had for Hulk for a while. Now She-Hulk's getting stale, any ideas?"

Loeb: "How about we introduce a new character.... Red She-Hulk"

"Sounds good. Can you stretch it out for a year?"


:-)

Now imagine Geoff Johns walks in....

"You guys wanna talk colors?" ^_^ I still have a couple I haven't used yet...

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Right, okay:

GJ walks in 5 years ago & starts talking about colours. Builds a storyline towards an event.

BMB walks in 5 years ago & starts talking about alien invaders. Builds a storyline towards an event.

See how things work?


Anyway, back on topic - Hulk was always the mindless brute really untill PAD took over the writing & turned things around. Hulk in the late 80s & early 90s is a classic read.

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